tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24528000.post146672979137145377..comments2023-10-28T12:01:47.929+00:00Comments on Edward Lucas: War in GeorgiaEdward Lucashttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11369936559712607693noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24528000.post-73210997947808096662008-09-28T09:35:00.000+00:002008-09-28T09:35:00.000+00:00Please, do not forget historical facts: Ossetia an...Please, do not forget historical facts: Ossetia and Abkhazia NEVER WERE a part of Georgia. Only under Stalin's rule they were forced to be nominated as a part of the so called Georgian Soviet Socialist Republic. But during all the periods of Georgia's independace (in 1918-1923 and 1991 up to now) Ossetia and Abkhazia constantly lived under a state of war with Georgia, not even one day of peace! So Russia saved these people from total elimination. Now there are NO Russian troops in Georgia, they are only in Ossetia and Abkhazia, whose population never agreed to Georgian rule over them.<BR/>Thanks.<BR/>FrancisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24528000.post-39687561327513687342008-08-12T10:21:00.000+00:002008-08-12T10:21:00.000+00:00I will answer your point as someone, who has also ...I will answer your point as someone, who has also lived in several Soviet Republics,someone who has lost relatives and ancestors in days of Stalin's Chistki and someone, whose life has been limited by the Soviet aparatus. Fortunately I haves also lived in Great Britain and Germany, therefore I am fairly open to liberal ideas and the argument at the other side of the table.<BR/><BR/>Nevertheles... I will agree with you, that the US is somewhat of a kind giant, however it has lost its moral high ground in the last twenty years, having defeated communism,America has lost any sense of opposition, the country does whatever it wishes now... you believe that US is fighting a good war because it is in the interest of the west and yourself perhaps, however it doesn't mean it is a moral war.<BR/><BR/>Being someone who understands Russia, I can say with full assurance that Russia didn't need this war, it didn't start it, because it has just recently gotten out of war in Chechnya, and despite your "genetic study", you don't understand how much psychological damage has this war done to Russia, it is war fatigue. Russia has plenty of things to do in its country, and the last thing it ever needed is war with Georgia, a brother nation.<BR/><BR/>As for some historical parallels, two of the worlds most democratic and prosperous nations have also once been on bent on totalitarian wishes to conquer the world, and in the matter of several decades they have become states, that the world looks up to in terms of achievement in democracy and economy. Of course, I have in mind Germany and Japan. So you see, regimes do change, and if Germany's European partners would have treated the Bundesrepublik the way you treat Russia, we wouldn't have EU today. <BR/><BR/>My point being, regimes change, so do national ideas and aspirations.However, being in your situation you will always recognized Russia, the way you knew it, the Soviet Union, and no matter what happens you will always look for the most negatives sides of that country, because frankly, subconsciously, you hate Russia.<BR/><BR/>As for your study, I have come across similar genetic projects by Estonian scientists, who were aiming to prove that Russians are disadvantegeous,barbaric and aggressive people. Needless to say, similar genetic and sociological studies have been carried out by Nazi scientists regarding the Jews, the Slavs and everyone else the Third Reich regime hated, it is all to familiar.Russophobia is your pro blem.Antonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14022964681232503802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24528000.post-67671195302624345542008-08-11T22:04:00.000+00:002008-08-11T22:04:00.000+00:00Speaking as someone having been grown up in the So...Speaking as someone having been grown up in the Soviet Union, I can assure you I know what I am talking about. <BR/>During the times of the Soviet Union we were locked in like dogs inside this Soviet totalitarian mess. That was our nightmare and once it collapsed, I began traveling all over the world. Now I know the difference and my genetic study about Russia, anton, is somewhat mature. <BR/>I am also correct predicting that you are having the U.S. in mind ceaselessly, even occupying Georgia at the time. <BR/>Let me remind you that you type criticism on computers run by American software, and I guess without acknowledging that your lives have been made healthier and longer by the advances of American medicine. America was the driving force making the creation of the United Nations, the International Monetary Fund, the World bank all in 1945 after the stupid war. Over the last twenty years the U.S. actions have been to lift millions of people from poverty. Without America that would very likely not have happened. I suppose you, anton, oleg and the others simply fail to imagine what the world without the U.S. would be like. Do you imagine your country in charge of all that? Let's hope you do not imagine.<BR/>So by and large, America is fighting a good war and it is just impossible to compare it to Russia. Georgia is just a muscle flexing deal for Russia and my study is based not on scrutinizing the media. I know how biased the media is all over the world, particularly in Russia, therefore my study is based on imagination and common sense and imagination is more important than knowledge (Einstein).Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13818455759916582566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24528000.post-60845824505119197182008-08-11T17:07:00.000+00:002008-08-11T17:07:00.000+00:00Oh I beg you, your genetic argument is full of non...Oh I beg you, your genetic argument is full of nonsense. Not one nation has participated, started as many wars as the US, what about those genes?<BR/><BR/>Suking, maybe Russia doesn't care about minorities, not for me to judge, nevertheless it is the Russian doctors and peacekeepers,who are saving lives of S.Ossetians from the Georgian invasion.<BR/><BR/>If you live your life in accordance to national and historical stereotypes, I can only feel sorry for you.<BR/><BR/>Poulnes, I also think that the Western media is full of bias and lies, this war has particularly opened my eyes, and made me reconsider Western convictions regarding War on Terror, Iraq and even the tensions with Iran.<BR/>Regards.Antonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14022964681232503802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24528000.post-80657571743547120682008-08-11T14:19:00.000+00:002008-08-11T14:19:00.000+00:00If your media belongs to professional ones, you co...If your media belongs to professional ones, you could not miss the true information. But you either do not want to deliver the truth, or it is forbidden to you.<BR/>Didn’t you know, that Georgian heavy artillery during the first 12 hours on 07.08.2008 night (when Russians did not yet move at all) killed almost 1600 civilians in Ossetia? Russian peace-keeping troops were forced to protect the victims, although began their activities too late, the day after, when the Georgian troops had already killed and burned thousands of women and children. This is the truth. <BR/>But your media delivers only “trench propaganda” from agressor’s side in style of Dr. Goebbels.<BR/>That’s very sorry, that free and independent information does not exist in the West any more!<BR/><BR/>PoulencAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24528000.post-56358551074979811302008-08-10T19:45:00.000+00:002008-08-10T19:45:00.000+00:00Jea... well, I think I was talking about the genes...Jea... well, I think I was talking about the genes of Russia. Part of the genes is that you always justify one bad behaviour by pointing to other bad behaviour (in this case Iraq, Afghanistan...) and you newer look at yourselves. You do not even grieve for the mistakes that's has been make. You proud of your country and buy into the system. Even Putin advocates, or even rewrites history. And you believe. You have no choice unless you travel and embrace other cultures, talk to other people. <BR/>So, to me Russia as a country is the worst enemy in the world (because it's powerful) and I am sure every human being knows that. Except the Russians. That's my problem. My headache is Russia, because Russia may invade other country with a blink of an eye and kill those with whom it disagrees.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13818455759916582566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24528000.post-68899756347070876052008-08-09T23:00:00.000+00:002008-08-09T23:00:00.000+00:00. . . ! ! ! OMG People ! ! ! . . .Watch War in Geo...<B>. . . ! ! ! 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Two absolutely different countries.Oleghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06213756533866392623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24528000.post-55487597475875632732008-08-09T08:42:00.000+00:002008-08-09T08:42:00.000+00:00Russia looks good on the surface according your vi...Russia looks good on the surface according your vision, but behind the scenes is a totally differend deal. As always. <BR/>Russia simply couldn't care less about minorities - that's the fact as we may know from history about Soviet Unioun. Russia have Americans in mind. Well, it's a good strategy to weaken Gorgia and maybe occupy it in the future. Georgia has an oil pipe in the south side. So why not to have Georgians under contol? It makes perfect sence since Russia wants to control the whole world. It's a step forward.<BR/>Pathetic. But that's the genes, ladies and gentlemen. Russia is as bully as you can get.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13818455759916582566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24528000.post-7074216197556577062008-08-08T15:12:00.000+00:002008-08-08T15:12:00.000+00:00Saakashvili behaves like a Hitler.He tolds that h...Saakashvili behaves like a Hitler.<BR/>He tolds that he wants a peace, but at same time kills peace people in South Ossetia. His target are not military, he wants to kill all Ossetian people (non-Georgian) like Hitler wanted to kill non-Aryan people. It is genocide.<BR/>He talks a lot of misinformation about Russia. The aim of Russia is to defend their people and peacekeepers. There were no any warplanes bombbing Tbilisi. Russians are only at Tskhinvali as peacekeepers.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07473031519848010569noreply@blogger.com