tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24528000.post216424433094776439..comments2023-10-28T12:01:47.929+00:00Comments on Edward Lucas: Europe.view columnEdward Lucashttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11369936559712607693noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24528000.post-51100834887617985512008-05-05T08:03:00.000+00:002008-05-05T08:03:00.000+00:00Just to follow up. You haven´t been given a reason...Just to follow up. You haven´t been given a reason to believe these theories, because it is very unlikely that a British or an American official is going to go live and admit to the Nation that yes, we have supported terrorist extremist KLA in order to break up Yugoslavia, yes we have aided and trained Chechnyan terrorists, just as we have established the Taliban movement. <BR/><BR/>Milliband is not likely to constantly brag about, how Britain offers asylum to people who are terrorists, who have actually killed civilians and soldiers in Chechnya, or protect Oligarchs like Brezovsky, who got his business by fraud and murder...Jee that is not going to look good in the light of the War on Terror.<BR/><BR/>That is why, you are not given any reason to believe these "theories".Antonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14022964681232503802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24528000.post-65051274002425142762008-05-05T07:35:00.000+00:002008-05-05T07:35:00.000+00:00Open your eyes! It is pretty blatant that US is be...Open your eyes! It is pretty blatant that US is behind the Orange and Rose revolutions.<BR/>Why would the West want a strong Russia?<BR/><BR/>Back in the Cold War days the Americans had a plan to fracture Russia into several states and autonomies, they have suceeded at doing so, and they´re doing it even further.<BR/><BR/>You have been given no reason, because you´re told elesewhat by your media and politicians.<BR/><BR/>Have a look at the map and notice the extent of NATO and American bases, also consider economy and military of the West and still to believe the nonsense this book is about, that is what I call naive.<BR/><BR/>Are you one of those people, who belive that the war in Iraq is about democracy by any chance?Antonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14022964681232503802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24528000.post-45822197763193286202008-05-05T02:47:00.000+00:002008-05-05T02:47:00.000+00:00>Nevertheless I do think that some of those theori...>Nevertheless I do think that some of those theories do have some truth about them.<<BR/><BR/>why? regardless of what russians are brought up to believe or what russian media says, we (in countries that are not russia) have been given no reason to agree, believe or even understand these thoughts.<BR/><BR/>try to be be less naive, anton.klxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02756387772020517484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24528000.post-75922329010316630232008-05-04T12:58:00.000+00:002008-05-04T12:58:00.000+00:00I do acknowledge that I'm wrong, I did hear it thr...I do acknowledge that I'm wrong, I did hear it through the grapevine that there were tents. That was something I geniully believed for a while but now that you proved it wrong I will no longer consider it to be true.<BR/><BR/>I guess you're right, it is difficult not to fall for such rumours of conspiracy theories, when the whole media spectrum around you only brags about, how the west is behind Kremlin's every single political blunder. Nevertheless I do think that some of those theories do have some truth about them.<BR/><BR/>However we are products of two different influences, which push for a similar idea. Here are the Russians brought up to believe that there is nothing more to the west than evil conspiracies against Russia, while Western media and press are continuesly warning about the so called "evil" menace of Kremlin. Both ideas have some credibility and both are hugely overplayed. That's my opinion.Antonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14022964681232503802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24528000.post-46845748886946366422008-05-04T12:03:00.000+00:002008-05-04T12:03:00.000+00:00Your English is very polished. Mr. Lucas is right ...Your English is very polished. Mr. Lucas is right that the vigor of the Kremlin's propagandist is at all time's high. <BR/><BR/>You revealed the fact of being one by a remarkable blunder--trumpeting about some obscure similarity of tents during Orange and Rose revolutions--perfectly in line with all sorts of conspiracy theories pouring from Lubianka all around. <BR/><BR/>Once again, there were no tents whatsoever during the Rose Revolution. I think no further comment is needed.Grigolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07353742707182976203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24528000.post-22641860266370636242008-05-04T10:49:00.000+00:002008-05-04T10:49:00.000+00:00Opponent? I beg you! You play no more than an enta...Opponent? I beg you! You play no more than an entartaining role, somewhat similar to a clown. Whenever I get bored with mundane reality of life, I turn to this blog,occasionally write a thing or two and then enjoy how you burst out in anger and hate towards everyone, Kremlin, West anyone on the daily agenda. Once I'm done enjoying this little alternative reality of paranoia of this blog and its members, I get back to doing my things. Hah, an opponent.<BR/><BR/>There's a really nice russian proverb: Смех без причины - признак дурачины<BR/><BR/>Figure it out yourself.Antonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14022964681232503802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24528000.post-72913939027173077552008-05-03T16:54:00.000+00:002008-05-03T16:54:00.000+00:00My dear opponent Anton. How ill-informed you are. ...My dear opponent Anton. How ill-informed you are. First of all, there were no tents in Georgia whatsoever. It was november but it was not cold--people did stay out at night though. You cannot find a single photo from the Rose Revolution with tents for the simple reason that there werent any. <BR/><BR/>"Ukrainian mate" I want to laughGrigolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07353742707182976203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24528000.post-20036750764350745482008-05-02T08:09:00.000+00:002008-05-02T08:09:00.000+00:00Oh, Mr Lucas, came across a documentary on the Rus...Oh, Mr Lucas, came across a documentary on the Russian cable, which suggested that the West was involved in Chechnya, apparently the French printed Chechnyan passports, the Americans donated cash ( something on those lines) etc. Would be interesting to see what you think about this matter.Antonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14022964681232503802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24528000.post-55847558071342063362008-05-02T08:06:00.000+00:002008-05-02T08:06:00.000+00:00Orange Webs -Sounds like a Russian version of an E...Orange Webs -Sounds like a Russian version of an Edward Lucas book.<BR/><BR/>Apparently the State Department, George Soros and several other Western government and nongovernment agencies supported, supplied and paid the rioting students. Won´t be suprised if Berezovsky played a role too. <BR/><BR/>Funny that similar tents were used by both opposition rioters in Georgia and Ukraine. <BR/><BR/>A mate from Ukraine, said that there was a campaign in his university, where students were offered 3-5$ an hour just to hang around the major square in Kiev, with a posters and banners.Antonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14022964681232503802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24528000.post-83561710760629350332008-05-02T03:46:00.000+00:002008-05-02T03:46:00.000+00:00Didn't an American PR firm take credit for the Ora...Didn't an American PR firm take credit for the Orange Revolution (I think it issued a press release or something)?Colleenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12248791977170347491noreply@blogger.com